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jhwatts 11-02-2006 02:45 PM

Setting on a gold mine with my mouth shut.
 
Can somebody advise me on what to about the area I have mentioned on my web site? Please see the following pages. Is there someway of wiggling around the fact that Tennessee is not open for a federal mining claim issue and some other little irritation such as being entirely to close to a wilderness area? This area has never been touched commercially and no one would think in a million years something may be here. I think this is one of those eastern US hot spots that have always been overlooked.

http://www.mathandstuff.freeservers.com/photo2.html

goldminer 11-02-2006 06:24 PM

Re: Setting on a gold mine with my mouth shut.
 
Maybe you want to set up a business selling top soil, fill dirt, sand, and gravel?

There are many, many, many, MANY small Au mining businesses in different areas of the country that separate out gold under the table while professing to be a top soil, fill dirt, sand, gravel, etc. business, even though they don't sell/haul much of the materials....just enough to look like it.

Check your local and state laws. In NC a mining operation working no more than an acre does not require a permit.

feruginajones 01-16-2007 01:40 PM

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Be like a ghost...dont make a mess and just say you were digging a latrine if you get flack.

RiverRat 01-16-2007 02:18 PM

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:cool2: Not exactly sure about this but I am thinking any citizen can file a discovery claim on all federal owned land if he discovers a valuable mineral.

I think you have to split the profit with the Feds sort of like deepwater salvage,but it is possible.

If the land in question is leased to,or owned by the state you might have a problem.

I remember some guy in Treasure magazine filing a gold claim on some federal property out in Nevada and they gave him the go ahead to dig and mine to his heart's content.

Two sets of laws in operation here state and federal ...just think oil leases on government property and you're on the right track...oil is considered a natural mineral deposit.

Do some research...you might strike gold and actually get to keep some of it.

:cool2: :cool2: :cool2:

Worldmariner 01-16-2007 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RiverRat (Post 476074)
:cool2: Not exactly sure about this but I am thinking any citizen can file a discovery claim on all federal owned land if he discovers a valuable mineral.

I think you have to split the profit with the Feds sort of like deepwater salvage,but it is possible.

If the land in question is leased to,or owned by the state you might have a problem.

I remember some guy in Treasure magazine filing a gold claim on some federal property out in Nevada and they gave him the go ahead to dig and mine to his heart's content.

Two sets of laws in operation here state and federal ...just think oil leases on government property and you're on the right track...oil is considered a natural mineral deposit.

Do some research...you might strike gold and actually get to keep some of it.

:cool2: :cool2: :cool2:

Why would a discoverer say anything to the Fed anyway? After all, it is public land. Dig dig dig. take take take. leave leave leave. :D

RiverRat 01-16-2007 02:49 PM

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:D Cool idea Worldmariner...until you get caught removing valuable RELICS from government land.

Hey,they can call it anything and bust your butt big time.

There was an actual case where a dude in North Carolina found uranium :eek: on state park property.

They wouldn't give him a permit to dig...so he went in at night and did a little serious prospecting.
Next morning they traced him to his home and arrested him for stealing government property without a permit.
The poor guy was radioactive and they loaded him into a HAZMAT van with the space suit dudes packing serious heat.
Confiscated his home and threw his family out on the street to starve.
Last I heard he was doing twenty years in Atlanta with no early parole.

No...I'm not making it up...happened around 1975 or so.

My point is they don't play....the poor guy was a first class moron.

I agree with your game plan...sneak in and out with your backpack full...
just don't bring in a burro or a four wheeler and get greedy and obvious.

:coolbeer: :coolbeer:

enay10 01-16-2007 02:54 PM

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just go about it on the sly.

____hoot____ 01-17-2007 11:15 PM

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Remember to your blasting durring thunderstorms!

Reno Chris 01-19-2007 12:36 PM

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Not exactly sure about this but I am thinking any citizen can file a discovery claim on all federal owned land if he discovers a valuable mineral.
Unfortunately, the federal mining law of 1872 (the one which allows the staking of claims on some federal lands) only applies in some states. Tenn. is not one. No wiggling around it. You only have right to dig on federal land if you have a claim, and then only with the restrictions the feds establish.

I wish the above quote were true, I am thinking it might be fun to start an open pit mine at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Washington DC if Hillary gets elected in 2008. After all, DC is just a big pit anyway. What�s one more hole there?

Chris

R MacDonald 01-19-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by enay10 (Post 476126)
just go about it on the sly.

Remember the last two "esses"

2- Shovel
3- Shut Up

mozkill 01-23-2007 07:43 PM

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2- Shovel
3- Shut Up
exactly. i have a mine but i would never tell anyone where it was in a million years.

sky 01-25-2007 07:23 PM

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There is an area in Nevada that is so loaded with silver it would stagger the imagination. There is also one of the largest underground rivers that can be found near the silver, But the ground there is sooo Radioactive you would glow at night, prospectors there in Nevada say that there is just TOO much silver there to just let it be left alone. What would you all do?

Infidel 01-25-2007 07:46 PM

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Silverstone 06-23-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sky (Post 486872)
There is an area in Nevada that is so loaded with silver it would stagger the imagination. There is also one of the largest underground rivers that can be found near the silver, But the ground there is sooo Radioactive you would glow at night, prospectors there in Nevada say that there is just TOO much silver there to just let it be left alone. What would you all do?

Well getting in and getting out isn't the problem, you suit up in your protective radiation suit, throw on a dosimeter, and dig until you reached the allowed MREMs and go away, come back another day. Now the problem is you have contaminated gear, clothing, tools and SILVER, and no decontamination process.

The question would be HOW contaminated? You'd have to scan it to see. We live in radiation, we're surrounded by it, in very small amounts, your gear, naw, if you're gonna glow, it's gonna glow when you're done, and probably the silver too.

You can cross-contaminate someone to unacceptable levels just walking by them if YOU are contaminated. Do you really want to take contaminated silver home to your family? What would you do with it? I don't think there is anything you COULD do with it. And I have NO idea how silver reacts to radiation (in the area/out of the area).

The problem isn't getting it in/out, it's the level of contamination you'll be carrying around with you (the silver itself if it's in a contamiinated area), is it worth dieing for? If the radiation is low enough, you might just get really sick for awhile, but then have to answer LOTS Of questions about where you got that LEVEL of radation poisioning, at certain levels, you'll live, and recover, and those could be acceptable limits for a lifetime of wealth if you're willing to be sick for awhile...but again, you'll have lots of questions to answer at the hospital.

And what do you do with the contaminated clothing, gear, and silver?
You could be looking at a really long prison sentence if caught, not to mention you're own life and the health of whomever you cross-contaminate.

But could it be done, yeah.

Silverstone 06-23-2007 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sky (Post 486872)
There is an area in Nevada that is so loaded with silver it would stagger the imagination. There is also one of the largest underground rivers that can be found near the silver, But the ground there is sooo Radioactive you would glow at night, prospectors there in Nevada say that there is just TOO much silver there to just let it be left alone. What would you all do?

P.S. There are "radiation" divers that work in radiated waters if you're talking about access through the river, but again, you're looking at time limits to minimize exposure, proper gear, and decontamination process. I don't think the Feds would allow it to happen, and if caught, I wouldn't want to be you.

Unclad Lad 06-27-2007 12:54 AM

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There is an area in Nevada that is so loaded with silver it would stagger the imagination. There is also one of the largest underground rivers that can be found near the silver, But the ground there is sooo Radioactive you would glow at night
Which suggests you aren't talking about big nuggets scattered under the sky.

Quote:

prospectors there in Nevada say that there is just TOO much silver there to just let it be left alone.
Just where is this area? Because if you're talking about the Test Range (Area 51), then radioactivity isn't what really keeps the prospectors away. But between Tonopah and Death Valley is some of the least populated land in the Lower 48. Esmeralda County has less than 3,000 souls. A lot of things could be right out in the open and never be found.

californiajeff 06-27-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Setting on a gold mine with my mouth shut.
 
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Originally Posted by Unclad Lad (Post 647804)
Which suggests you aren't talking about big nuggets scattered under the sky.



Just where is this area? Because if you're talking about the Test Range (Area 51), then radioactivity isn't what really keeps the prospectors away. But between Tonopah and Death Valley is some of the least populated land in the Lower 48. Esmeralda County has less than 3,000 souls. A lot of things could be right out in the open and never be found.

You are exactly right. Nevada is one of the least explored states and Baja Mexico has been explored even less.

CajunCoin 07-03-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Setting on a gold mine with my mouth shut.
 
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Originally Posted by jhwatts (Post 404796)
Can somebody advise me on what to about the area I have mentioned on my web site? Please see the following pages. Is there someway of wiggling around the fact that Tennessee is not open for a federal mining claim issue and some other little irritation such as being entirely to close to a wilderness area? This area has never been touched commercially and no one would think in a million years something may be here. I think this is one of those eastern US hot spots that have always been overlooked.

http://www.mathandstuff.freeservers.com/photo2.html

Is it on Federal Land in the National forest or National Park land? National Park- fugitaboutit too many hassles.

National Forest Land presents many problems and since TN is not a mining claim state, you should consult a mining lawyer or at least one with Natural Resource experieince. who could research if a mining lease is possible on the property. Is there private property nearby and is it available and mineral rights available?

Not easy here, out side of the Western States, mineral extraction can involve extensive legal wrtangling. I work in the Oil Industry and in the Eastern US, Mineral Law is full of pitfalls.

____hoot____ 07-04-2007 12:18 PM

Re: Setting on a gold mine with my mouth shut.
 
jhwatts, [got a lot of junk on my computor going to your site] I used to be in a chemtrail group with a fellow named Walt that had his own 4" dredge and a secret stream for getting gold before he got sick[he died a year ago]. He lived in the mountains somewhere outside of Boone N.C. which I see is only 40-50 miles ne of this area of Tennessee that you are interested in. Too bad he isn't still alive and I could have hooked you two up. I have heard of old copper mines at Ducktown Tennessee; wherever that is?

CajunCoin 07-04-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 653934)
jhwatts, [got a lot of junk on my computor going to your site] I used to be in a chemtrail group with a fellow named Walt that had his own 4" dredge and a secret stream for getting gold before he got sick[he died a year ago]. He lived in the mountains somewhere outside of Boone N.C. which I see is only 40-50 miles ne of this area of Tennessee that you are interested in. Too bad he isn't still alive and I could have hooked you two up. I have heard of old copper mines at Ducktown Tennessee; wherever that is?

Ducktown is on Hwy 64 east of Cleveland-Chatanooga, TN. found lots of copper in the area around ducktown which is in the SE corner of TN, some GOLD, Silver and Zinc has been found there too.


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